Is this thing on?
I downloaded fire in an attempt to experiment with jabber instant messaging. Of course I can't really do much experimenting because I don't know anyone else who uses jabber. Do you? IM me at jimbass@jabber.org and help me get up to speed.
Or, if you don't have it and you're slightly adventurous, download the jabber client (windows, linux, Mac.) Then you just connect to one of the many public servers with a name/password you've made up. If the name isn't recognized it will simply ask you if you want to make a new account. Nice. Simple. Free.
And then IM me.
Well, Mark, being an EE and all, managed to install Fire and make contact with no problem. Thanks for my first IM! I'll have more to say about this. It's cool. I can see why kids love it (and not just kids of course.) Very very interesting.
Do people save transcripts? It's like email (like a weird continuous email) but if conversations just scroll off into oblivion, then it's pretty different. More like a face to face conversation in that it's not searchable after the fact. I guess that's good and bad. But then maybe people do save transcripts, I don't know.
I know some people have put an email like front end onto jabber. This is interesting in that it would allow you to set up a private email network (it would work like email, but only people on your buddy list would be able to get messages through.) Goodbye spam. But also goodbye long lost friend getting in touch with you. Still, I guess you'd just keep your spam catching email account around and check it now and again.
And then there's the fact that Chandler is going to use jabber as their P2P message passing system for their calendar/PIM/email client thingie that is due out soon. I've imagined using it here as well for new post update announcement (like I use email now, not sure how IM is really better, but there seems something more real time about it.)
I'll have more unconnected thoughts as I use it. You others should give it a shot. Or do you already use something else? Tell me your IM experience...
i used to use the aol im at my last job all the time. it was handy for conference calls so we could have a hidden conversation going on with client unawares. also it was a good tool for chatting with yer neighbor while appearing busy. and when email is just too slow.
I've used aol im and icq for collaborative writing projects. I liked icq much better as all files were saved automatically in a log. That was about 3 years ago. (cut and paste into word) I understand that icq has become buggy and difficult now.
I've used AOL IM a few times. Exodus/Jabber seems to have a rich feature set and high usability. I like the open standard/open software/Linux mindset behind the project. I'd like to see integrated file transfer and co-browsing. If they can bridge to AIM, mobile phones, etc., that would be very cool. It's early in the game, but open standards sometimes win.
Jabber is really strong. A lot of projects are building on top of it, precisely because it is so open. For instance, Mitch Kapor's new email/PIM/calendar (outlook killing) uber message client is going to use jabber as it's P2P message passing mechanism (like for resolving group calendar issues - the stuff microsoft does with a centralized exchange server.) And that's just a high profile case of the general idea of using jabber as middleware. Cool stuff.
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I downloaded fire in an attempt to experiment with jabber instant messaging. Of course I can't really do much experimenting because I don't know anyone else who uses jabber. Do you? IM me at jimbass@jabber.org and help me get up to speed.
Or, if you don't have it and you're slightly adventurous, download the jabber client (windows, linux, Mac.) Then you just connect to one of the many public servers with a name/password you've made up. If the name isn't recognized it will simply ask you if you want to make a new account. Nice. Simple. Free.
And then IM me.
- jim 3-12-2003 12:12 am
Well, Mark, being an EE and all, managed to install Fire and make contact with no problem. Thanks for my first IM! I'll have more to say about this. It's cool. I can see why kids love it (and not just kids of course.) Very very interesting.
Do people save transcripts? It's like email (like a weird continuous email) but if conversations just scroll off into oblivion, then it's pretty different. More like a face to face conversation in that it's not searchable after the fact. I guess that's good and bad. But then maybe people do save transcripts, I don't know.
I know some people have put an email like front end onto jabber. This is interesting in that it would allow you to set up a private email network (it would work like email, but only people on your buddy list would be able to get messages through.) Goodbye spam. But also goodbye long lost friend getting in touch with you. Still, I guess you'd just keep your spam catching email account around and check it now and again.
And then there's the fact that Chandler is going to use jabber as their P2P message passing system for their calendar/PIM/email client thingie that is due out soon. I've imagined using it here as well for new post update announcement (like I use email now, not sure how IM is really better, but there seems something more real time about it.)
I'll have more unconnected thoughts as I use it. You others should give it a shot. Or do you already use something else? Tell me your IM experience...
- jim 3-12-2003 6:27 pm
i used to use the aol im at my last job all the time. it was handy for conference calls so we could have a hidden conversation going on with client unawares. also it was a good tool for chatting with yer neighbor while appearing busy. and when email is just too slow.
- linda 3-13-2003 2:22 am
I've used aol im and icq for collaborative writing projects. I liked icq much better as all files were saved automatically in a log. That was about 3 years ago. (cut and paste into word) I understand that icq has become buggy and difficult now.
- steve 3-13-2003 2:54 am
I've used AOL IM a few times. Exodus/Jabber seems to have a rich feature set and high usability. I like the open standard/open software/Linux mindset behind the project. I'd like to see integrated file transfer and co-browsing. If they can bridge to AIM, mobile phones, etc., that would be very cool. It's early in the game, but open standards sometimes win.
- mark 3-13-2003 1:51 pm
Jabber is really strong. A lot of projects are building on top of it, precisely because it is so open. For instance, Mitch Kapor's new email/PIM/calendar (outlook killing) uber message client is going to use jabber as it's P2P message passing mechanism (like for resolving group calendar issues - the stuff microsoft does with a centralized exchange server.) And that's just a high profile case of the general idea of using jabber as middleware. Cool stuff.
- jim 3-13-2003 5:35 pm