ZOMG!!11!!!1!! Apple just announced the breakthrough mobile device I have been waiting for. A few details I still need to find out (including price) but this is IT. Finally. The future is here.
I know I'm prone to hyperbole around this subject, but I predict (this is 1 minute after hearing the specs and only seeing a couple pictures) that this will be the best selling consumer electronics device of all time.
Shipping in June (that's the only bad news so far,) and by end of 07 in Europe and Asia in 08.
$499 for 4 GB
$599 for 8 GB
Damn. I was guessing $799. This thing is insane. It's a full blown computer. Nothing else is even in the same league. Wow wow wow.
picture or link? subscription cost?
Engadget pictures. The prices above are with a 2-year Cingular contract. I imagine minutes will cost whatever they usually do on Cingular.
It has WiFi as well though, so you're definitely going to be able to run a VOIP client.
From the slide show it looks amazing.
I noticed Jobs taking credit for the mouse. I guess they did popularize it.
I thought Cisco owned the iPhone trademark. I wonder if they cut a deal.
trademark lawsuit filed
I don't think the Cisco lawsuit will be a big deal.
It's very hard to figure out some important details of the phone. Strong rumors are saying that the phone will not be open to third party developers. That would be a shame. But we really don't know, and even if it is true at first, the situation could always change. Or it might be open to trusted third party developers (you pay for the SDK and Apple signs your binary - like Symbian does with 9.) We'll have to wait and see. But it looks like it's not running a full and open version of OS X just like a desktop which is the thing that was completely blowing me away.
Still, even if this turns out to be the worst case, completely closed, scenario it doesn't really change my basic outlook on the device. It is still going to be huge. And my instinct is that if they do launch it closed, it will eventually open up as the device matures and becomes more powerful.
Jobs says he thinks of it as a phone, not a computer, but I think that is just right now. The iPhone will be the computer of the future, and they will eventually need 3rd party developers to make that happen. It will be interesting to watch.
Apple iPhone. Click on the 4 colored squares on the right and then watch the multiple QuickTours on each page to see how it works.
Very slick the way the screen rotates when you turn the phone. And the scrolling is too cool (I love the way you cycle through photos, and resize with the pinch movement!)
After extensive message board research (you can thank me later,) here is every reason why the iPhone is sure to fail:
0) Costs too much.
1) It's only on Cingular and they are teh suxor.
2) You have to sign a 2 year contract to get it (with Cingular, see above) and that is teh sux.
3) It's on the EDGE network, so it's not really high speed cellular data (not true 3G.)
4) Memory is not expandable.
5) Battery is not swappable.
6) 3rd party applications cannot be installed.
7) Only 5 hours of talk time.
8) Only a 2 Megapixel camera.
9) It has a camera.
10) No mechanical keyboard.
11) Doesn't run Windows, so no full Exchange server support (no calendaring, etc...)
12) Made by Apple and they are teh gay.
3,4,6,7, and 8 are somewhat valid points I think. But the idea that any combination of these points adds up to the product failing is a little ridiculous. This is a first generation product. It's not going to be perfect, nor does it need to be. I'm excited and already trying to figure a way to justify a June purchase, but it's the big picture that is even more impressive. Remember the first generation iPod? It had a lot of issues as well. But after a few revisions these things get worked out. The question is what will the iPhone look like in three years? Five years? (Hint: it will have more power than the computer you are using right now.) It's hard to even imagine how cool it is going to be. It's not there yet, but you can see the arc. This is going to replace computers completely for a lot of people.
This post of mine from February makes a lot more sense now!
If you aren't impressed yet with the possibilites of the iPhone multi-touch display, please check out the video I linked to back then (video embedded top right on the page.)
(Note the recent update at the top of that page: "Update: Yes, we saw the keynote too! We have some very, very exciting updates coming soon- stay tuned!")
Left out in Job's slide on the history of user input technology was ... can anyone remember this one ... the Newton.
If the iPhone does not have outstanding voice recognition (much better than what I've experienced with my LG phone), the lack of touch feedback will be an issue. I don't have to look at my phone to speed dial, or answer, change to speakerphone mode, end the call, change the volume level, silence the ringer, etc.
The battery thing sucks. I could live without my iPod Shuffle if I have to send it in for a new battery. And if my video iPod has to go in, well, I've got the Shuffle. But I'm not going to do without a phone!
I think they've got some stuff to resolve before I'd get one.
LOL. Somebody clipped the defalut iPhone ringtone out of the keynote video, cleaned it up, and made it into a .midi file so you can put it on your phone. My Treo is now a little bit more stylish.
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I know I'm prone to hyperbole around this subject, but I predict (this is 1 minute after hearing the specs and only seeing a couple pictures) that this will be the best selling consumer electronics device of all time.
- jim 1-09-2007 9:43 pm
Shipping in June (that's the only bad news so far,) and by end of 07 in Europe and Asia in 08.
$499 for 4 GB
$599 for 8 GB
Damn. I was guessing $799. This thing is insane. It's a full blown computer. Nothing else is even in the same league. Wow wow wow.
- jim 1-09-2007 9:52 pm
picture or link? subscription cost?
- bill 1-09-2007 9:53 pm
Engadget pictures. The prices above are with a 2-year Cingular contract. I imagine minutes will cost whatever they usually do on Cingular.
It has WiFi as well though, so you're definitely going to be able to run a VOIP client.
- jim 1-09-2007 10:11 pm
From the slide show it looks amazing.
I noticed Jobs taking credit for the mouse. I guess they did popularize it.
I thought Cisco owned the iPhone trademark. I wonder if they cut a deal.
- mark 1-09-2007 11:15 pm
trademark lawsuit filed
- mark 1-11-2007 9:58 am
I don't think the Cisco lawsuit will be a big deal.
It's very hard to figure out some important details of the phone. Strong rumors are saying that the phone will not be open to third party developers. That would be a shame. But we really don't know, and even if it is true at first, the situation could always change. Or it might be open to trusted third party developers (you pay for the SDK and Apple signs your binary - like Symbian does with 9.) We'll have to wait and see. But it looks like it's not running a full and open version of OS X just like a desktop which is the thing that was completely blowing me away.
Still, even if this turns out to be the worst case, completely closed, scenario it doesn't really change my basic outlook on the device. It is still going to be huge. And my instinct is that if they do launch it closed, it will eventually open up as the device matures and becomes more powerful.
Jobs says he thinks of it as a phone, not a computer, but I think that is just right now. The iPhone will be the computer of the future, and they will eventually need 3rd party developers to make that happen. It will be interesting to watch.
- jim 1-11-2007 9:19 pm
Apple iPhone. Click on the 4 colored squares on the right and then watch the multiple QuickTours on each page to see how it works.
Very slick the way the screen rotates when you turn the phone. And the scrolling is too cool (I love the way you cycle through photos, and resize with the pinch movement!)
- jim 1-11-2007 9:23 pm
After extensive message board research (you can thank me later,) here is every reason why the iPhone is sure to fail:
0) Costs too much.
1) It's only on Cingular and they are teh suxor.
2) You have to sign a 2 year contract to get it (with Cingular, see above) and that is teh sux.
3) It's on the EDGE network, so it's not really high speed cellular data (not true 3G.)
4) Memory is not expandable.
5) Battery is not swappable.
6) 3rd party applications cannot be installed.
7) Only 5 hours of talk time.
8) Only a 2 Megapixel camera.
9) It has a camera.
10) No mechanical keyboard.
11) Doesn't run Windows, so no full Exchange server support (no calendaring, etc...)
12) Made by Apple and they are teh gay.
3,4,6,7, and 8 are somewhat valid points I think. But the idea that any combination of these points adds up to the product failing is a little ridiculous. This is a first generation product. It's not going to be perfect, nor does it need to be. I'm excited and already trying to figure a way to justify a June purchase, but it's the big picture that is even more impressive. Remember the first generation iPod? It had a lot of issues as well. But after a few revisions these things get worked out. The question is what will the iPhone look like in three years? Five years? (Hint: it will have more power than the computer you are using right now.) It's hard to even imagine how cool it is going to be. It's not there yet, but you can see the arc. This is going to replace computers completely for a lot of people.
- jim 1-11-2007 11:57 pm
This post of mine from February makes a lot more sense now!
If you aren't impressed yet with the possibilites of the iPhone multi-touch display, please check out the video I linked to back then (video embedded top right on the page.)
(Note the recent update at the top of that page: "Update: Yes, we saw the keynote too! We have some very, very exciting updates coming soon- stay tuned!")
- jim 1-12-2007 12:05 am
Left out in Job's slide on the history of user input technology was ... can anyone remember this one ... the Newton.
If the iPhone does not have outstanding voice recognition (much better than what I've experienced with my LG phone), the lack of touch feedback will be an issue. I don't have to look at my phone to speed dial, or answer, change to speakerphone mode, end the call, change the volume level, silence the ringer, etc.
The battery thing sucks. I could live without my iPod Shuffle if I have to send it in for a new battery. And if my video iPod has to go in, well, I've got the Shuffle. But I'm not going to do without a phone!
I think they've got some stuff to resolve before I'd get one.
- mark 1-12-2007 6:14 am
LOL. Somebody clipped the defalut iPhone ringtone out of the keynote video, cleaned it up, and made it into a .midi file so you can put it on your phone. My Treo is now a little bit more stylish.
- jim 1-22-2007 1:18 am