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(or option click / right click here for download)
music by Tom Moody, graphics by Sally McKay
This Friday, April 30th (6-9pm) is the opening of a show I'm in called Robot Landscapes. I'm pretty happy with my piece, a lot of which was worked out here on the blog (see the sketches and preliminary gifs here). The show is in a series of vitrines. Each artist has been given a window, and the task of creating a landscape for a tiny, solar-powered robot. My piece is a window within a window, a small mirrored diorama running a simple sci-fi inspired animation. Viewers will don headphones and peer in at the strange little space enclosed. Tom Moody has collaborated by writing an excellent piece of music that meets the graphics in a charged-yet-ambient, abstract zone.
Robot Landscapes is presented as part of digifest 2004: On The Move. It runs May 1 to July 4 in Case Studies at Harbourfront Centre in Toronto. Participants are Wai-Loong Lim, Sally McKay, Jenny San Martin, Jon Sasaki, the teams of Kirsten White and Marc Sullivan, Magda Wojtyra and Marc Ngui, Arek Jackowski and Dorota Gelner, Magic Pony and curator Paola Poletto.
im getting a blank image on your robot link at the top.
Maybe it's just loading? It loads in my browser (fairly soon) as a Quicktime movie.
nope. dont work.
hm. this is where not knowing anything becomes a problem. It's a Quicktime mpeg-4. I will see what I can find out.
Any other tree-ers having problems viewing this file?
I just tried it on another machine and needed to update the Quicktime Player to version 6. You can download it here (free). Sorry about the hassle. Maybe if I have time tonight I'll make an alternative version for Flash. Any other suggestions would be appreciated, I know that aksing people to go digging for downloads is not a good option.
i have quicktime 6.5 installed. ill reboot my machine and see if its a random occurence.
Works for me with QT 6.5 on OS X.
still doesnt work. could i have some sort of script disabled?
The only problem with upgrading is that you have to pay for a new version of QT pro if you use it.
oooh. nasty! LM, do you know if/how there's a good way I can export the file so people don't need QT6? (dave I know this won't solve your problem. Dunno what your problem is yet).
Little bit off topic, but on the Mac you can get rid of the super annoying "upgrade to QT Pro" nag screen by a) quitting QT if it is running, b) setting the date to something way in the future, and c) opening QT. Now quit and reset the date and QT won't nag you again (until whenever you picked for "way in the future".)
I'm betting Dave's problem is something to do with IE plug-in preferences. Probably WMP is trying to handle the video.
Maybe give an alternate link to the video itself so people can easily right click and save as if the stream isn't working for them.
Okay thanks Jim. works for me ... anyone feels like testing it that'd be great.
no trouble with that.
It worked on my PC with the upgrade, and as far as I can tell, since it does read more like an animation than a video, you could change it to a flash program. If you extracted a still for every image change, you can bypass the frames (and slow frame rates) by using a custom timer that would swap the images based on an array of different milliseconds for each image. That way you would still have full control of the end product and not have to worry about user's machine (well not too much anyway) Your brother could probably do the same thing for you in Director, but if you wanted to do it in flash, I could help you out (the program is the easy part)
ironically, it is an animation, made it in Flash, and its the 35MB, 9" wide .swf version that will run in the installation at Harbourfront. I would love help with Flash sometime! I have very very basic skills, but no scripting yet. Maybe we can do a trade of some kind for some a lesson.
Ok, you're laughin' Most of the labour has been done then for that project. I'd happily give you some lessons on the scripting side.
no problem for me... and p.s. both the visuals and the music are great....!
thanks Rebecca!
Worked fine for me too. Groovy! What time is the opening?
Will drop after CM me thinks.
okay that was embarrasing. Took me awhile to find the time of the opening. It's from 6-9pm, so it should be easy to swing by after Critical Mass if anyone is so inclined. there are bike stickers on the computer that I'm using in the installation, but otherwise no cycling content whatsoever.
That was fun. And I recognized many of the parts.
thanks Mark! I dunno if you realise, but you've been very helpful...with this but also (more so) on the work Ive been developing for my next show which is specifically about quantum physics.
Maybe I'll see this in the near future when I get back to a slightly upgraded PC, this one barely gets by, tried to stream, no, download and open with Quicktime, no, but the anticipatory value of your work is off the charts.
dang. Jimlouis I don't like that you can't see it. Big part of the reason I like the little gifs.
congratulations sally mckay!
i knew somthing good would come from that mars mission. corngratz sally and tom!
Hey Bill thanks for the great pics and lander chitchat.
Funnily, you'll end up excluding others with flash as well - unfortunately. Regardless of it being a web standard. I've had a number of complaints about not being able to view content on my site (requires flash 6) - which when investigated, revealed suitably messed up PC's with loads of problems or people who flat out refuse to update.
In any event, it worked on this end, sally and I like it loads - even if I was feeling slightly epileptic at the start. ;) I also stole my very own copy of it, which - if I know you well enough - you won't mind.
Hey Kelly, you are right about Flash. There are political reasons to refuse it, along with the technical ones. You are also right I don' t mind at all that you downloaded the vid. However, I do ask you to keep the credit for Tom Moody attached to the work. Or if you ever show to anyone tell, them that Tom Moody (New York artist and blogger) made the song. The music is really half the piece as it stands here and I am grateful that Tom agreed to do it.
Absolutely.
Hey, it's your piece--musicians never get credit, it's always the director. Seriously, I appreciate the mention but once the thing's out there there's only so much you can do. (Hard to concentrate today--during the noon break in the construction next door another crew set up across the street and are feeding dead trees into a woodchipper.)
And congratulations tom moody!
Man, I love woodchippers! If I was you, I'd down tools and go watch the action.
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click for streaming video
(or option click / right click here for download)
music by Tom Moody, graphics by Sally McKay
Robot Landscapes is presented as part of digifest 2004: On The Move. It runs May 1 to July 4 in Case Studies at Harbourfront Centre in Toronto. Participants are Wai-Loong Lim, Sally McKay, Jenny San Martin, Jon Sasaki, the teams of Kirsten White and Marc Sullivan, Magda Wojtyra and Marc Ngui, Arek Jackowski and Dorota Gelner, Magic Pony and curator Paola Poletto.
- sally mckay 4-25-2004 4:59 pm
im getting a blank image on your robot link at the top.
- dave 4-26-2004 5:53 pm
Maybe it's just loading? It loads in my browser (fairly soon) as a Quicktime movie.
- tom moody 4-26-2004 5:56 pm
nope. dont work.
- dave 4-26-2004 6:11 pm
hm. this is where not knowing anything becomes a problem. It's a Quicktime mpeg-4. I will see what I can find out.
- sally mckay 4-26-2004 6:37 pm
Any other tree-ers having problems viewing this file?
- tom moody 4-26-2004 6:44 pm
I just tried it on another machine and needed to update the Quicktime Player to version 6. You can download it here (free). Sorry about the hassle. Maybe if I have time tonight I'll make an alternative version for Flash. Any other suggestions would be appreciated, I know that aksing people to go digging for downloads is not a good option.
- sally mckay 4-26-2004 6:53 pm
i have quicktime 6.5 installed. ill reboot my machine and see if its a random occurence.
- dave 4-26-2004 7:03 pm
Works for me with QT 6.5 on OS X.
- jim 4-26-2004 7:07 pm
still doesnt work. could i have some sort of script disabled?
- dave 4-26-2004 7:13 pm
The only problem with upgrading is that you have to pay for a new version of QT pro if you use it.
- LM (guest) 4-26-2004 7:32 pm
oooh. nasty! LM, do you know if/how there's a good way I can export the file so people don't need QT6? (dave I know this won't solve your problem. Dunno what your problem is yet).
- sally mckay 4-26-2004 7:39 pm
Little bit off topic, but on the Mac you can get rid of the super annoying "upgrade to QT Pro" nag screen by a) quitting QT if it is running, b) setting the date to something way in the future, and c) opening QT. Now quit and reset the date and QT won't nag you again (until whenever you picked for "way in the future".)
I'm betting Dave's problem is something to do with IE plug-in preferences. Probably WMP is trying to handle the video.
- jim 4-26-2004 7:40 pm
Maybe give an alternate link to the video itself so people can easily right click and save as if the stream isn't working for them.
- jim 4-26-2004 7:42 pm
Okay thanks Jim. works for me ... anyone feels like testing it that'd be great.
- sally mckay 4-26-2004 8:15 pm
no trouble with that.
- dave 4-26-2004 8:20 pm
It worked on my PC with the upgrade, and as far as I can tell, since it does read more like an animation than a video, you could change it to a flash program. If you extracted a still for every image change, you can bypass the frames (and slow frame rates) by using a custom timer that would swap the images based on an array of different milliseconds for each image. That way you would still have full control of the end product and not have to worry about user's machine (well not too much anyway) Your brother could probably do the same thing for you in Director, but if you wanted to do it in flash, I could help you out (the program is the easy part)
- LM (guest) 4-26-2004 9:24 pm
ironically, it is an animation, made it in Flash, and its the 35MB, 9" wide .swf version that will run in the installation at Harbourfront. I would love help with Flash sometime! I have very very basic skills, but no scripting yet. Maybe we can do a trade of some kind for some a lesson.
- sally mckay 4-26-2004 10:30 pm
Ok, you're laughin' Most of the labour has been done then for that project. I'd happily give you some lessons on the scripting side.
- LM (guest) 4-26-2004 10:50 pm
no problem for me... and p.s. both the visuals and the music are great....!
- rebecca 4-27-2004 6:16 am
thanks Rebecca!
- sally mckay 4-27-2004 6:47 am
Worked fine for me too. Groovy! What time is the opening?
Will drop after CM me thinks.
- Tino (guest) 4-28-2004 1:21 am
okay that was embarrasing. Took me awhile to find the time of the opening. It's from 6-9pm, so it should be easy to swing by after Critical Mass if anyone is so inclined. there are bike stickers on the computer that I'm using in the installation, but otherwise no cycling content whatsoever.
- sally mckay 4-28-2004 7:12 am
That was fun. And I recognized many of the parts.
- mark 4-28-2004 9:29 am
thanks Mark! I dunno if you realise, but you've been very helpful...with this but also (more so) on the work Ive been developing for my next show which is specifically about quantum physics.
- sally mckay 4-28-2004 9:37 am
Maybe I'll see this in the near future when I get back to a slightly upgraded PC, this one barely gets by, tried to stream, no, download and open with Quicktime, no, but the anticipatory value of your work is off the charts.
- jimlouis 4-28-2004 6:50 pm
dang. Jimlouis I don't like that you can't see it. Big part of the reason I like the little gifs.
- sally mckay 4-28-2004 7:23 pm
congratulations sally mckay!
- selma 4-28-2004 7:53 pm
i knew somthing good would come from that mars mission. corngratz sally and tom!
- bill 4-28-2004 11:31 pm
Hey Bill thanks for the great pics and lander chitchat.
- sally mckay 4-29-2004 1:07 am
Funnily, you'll end up excluding others with flash as well - unfortunately. Regardless of it being a web standard. I've had a number of complaints about not being able to view content on my site (requires flash 6) - which when investigated, revealed suitably messed up PC's with loads of problems or people who flat out refuse to update.
In any event, it worked on this end, sally and I like it loads - even if I was feeling slightly epileptic at the start. ;) I also stole my very own copy of it, which - if I know you well enough - you won't mind.
- kelly 4-29-2004 1:20 pm
Hey Kelly, you are right about Flash. There are political reasons to refuse it, along with the technical ones. You are also right I don' t mind at all that you downloaded the vid. However, I do ask you to keep the credit for Tom Moody attached to the work. Or if you ever show to anyone tell, them that Tom Moody (New York artist and blogger) made the song. The music is really half the piece as it stands here and I am grateful that Tom agreed to do it.
- sally mckay 4-29-2004 5:00 pm
Absolutely.
- kelly 4-29-2004 5:43 pm
Hey, it's your piece--musicians never get credit, it's always the director. Seriously, I appreciate the mention but once the thing's out there there's only so much you can do. (Hard to concentrate today--during the noon break in the construction next door another crew set up across the street and are feeding dead trees into a woodchipper.)
- tom moody 4-29-2004 7:37 pm
And congratulations tom moody!
- selma 4-29-2004 8:10 pm
Man, I love woodchippers! If I was you, I'd down tools and go watch the action.
- sally mckay 4-29-2004 8:24 pm
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