Don't have a lot to say at the moment as my head is buried in prepping for a class debate on public vs. private funding structures for museums. What do you like better, governments or corporations? (heh)
Anyhow, since I'm doing an art history degree, I thought a little visual study on perspective might be appropriate. Remember how we got taught way back in school about how art got better and better as people figured out how to paint things so they looked like they receeded on the picture plane? Those were the days!
Bigger crows, smaller seagulls, that's the ticket. Another art and perhaps even a relational aesthetic problem is solved. (Can we not make up relational aesthetic problems as we go along? Yes, I think we can and shall.)
 
Yes, that is a good plan! Also, we can address "the panopticon" while we're at it, because in the big-crow small-seagull seemingly dialectical universe the location of the viewer (subject) was at the same time heavily implicated by the unversalising perspective of eating a bagel, thereby embodying both viewer/desiring subject, and the viewed/desired object, in relation to the aforementioned variously agressive avian fauna.
Does this look infected?
Devilled eggs! yum.
Sutured, is a good word for that Sally. Any time anything disrupts a seemingly dialectical universe the thing doing it is suturing the two world together. It's a great term because it A. is fun to say B. has a nice visual component that really has nothing to do with what you're talking about but is fun to think about and C. is a term often used by Lacan who (as everyone knows) is a confusing bastard that only 1% of the Lacan scholars know anything about, let alone the rest of us.
And yes L.M., you should have that checked out right away. It looks like you were doing some suturing of your own (although in fairness it looks a bit more like skewering or lancing). In any case whatever the purple thing is, is definitely infected.
-or- schmeered and kabobed together.
Schmeer keeps the bagel theme alive.
Joester, look up suture on google images...I dare ya.
omg.
I once dreamed that my dad had been brought back to life by an adroit taxidermist. He was sitting at the dinner table, happily chowing down, held together by rows of crude black stitches. It was nice to see him again, however revolting.
Sutures, perspective, panopticonisim, and "does this look infected?", all in one picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84221353@N00/2035289553/in/set-72157603072322495/
Beat that.
Cow Repair by Rob Cruickshank, from the link above:
Uh-oh. This photo also opens up a brand new line inquiry: Performative Sensual Fashion Options for the Middle-Aged Mid-Western Bovine-Veterinarian Male.
In the spirit of open inquiry, how does one deal with a critique that would position a Middle-Aged Mid-Western Bovine-Veterinarian Male as a piece of reactionary relational aesthetics? Is his partial nudity enough of a mitigating factor to intercept the logical extension of commentary into the realm of corporate veterinary pharmaceutical interests?
I almost make sense here. cool.
M. Jean: it was nice to see him again????
(that is such a great combination of sweet and sick that I must bow to you)
Good one, LM! Intercepting extensions. love it.
M. Jean, it sounds from that dream like you finally saw Tideland.
Just make sure I get a footnote in any papers you write. (I'm still pissed off at joester for not footnoting my quote "man's interest in animals stems mainly from his desire to eat them" when he wrote his masters thesis.)
I mean, I'm not one to complain but I bang this shit out of my keyboard and all you academics have to do is copy & paste and pick up a degree.
One of my teachers told me I have to stop saying "I'm not an academic." I don't think I have to join ranks before I actually have a degree, do I?
I think you joined the ranks of academia the second you walked through the institution's door. Let's band together and start a 12-step program for academics. I think it could be fun.
augh. step 1. say you're sorry. step 2. get some excercise. step 3. console gaming. step 4. write a book. step 5. say you're sorry again. ...that's all I got.
Then there are the uber academics. Like Goths who wear pink they are so steeped in academia that they can become the very thing they are not. Trevor Paglen springs to mind. On top of his art / activism career he's also doing a PHD in geography.
Sally, I think you should be one of those. Get an art history / physics double major, and have a solo show and curate the Whiney bienniel.
And get a cat. (although I gotta tell ya, them critters are pricey).
speaking of cats...thanks to HEEVANS for this lion link (cuter than otter's holding hands).
even at this academic conference i am at right now, i dont really feel like an academic, but then the pca, most people dont--i think that its almost a state of mind, a way of discourses and inquiry.
methodology. One thing that's kind of amazing to me about art history is how long the discipline held out thinking that it was a kind of scientific endeavour: apply the right methodology and you end up with facts! In order to really believe something like that, you have to trust the ways in which the discipline negotiates theory, and have a reasonable amount of confidence in the historical building blocks that the field is scaffolded on. People who want to radically change the narrative often end up in some other field.
Is this no longer the way it works? You spoke in the past tense.
I was amazed talking to Art history students at Berkeley that they were actively discourage from writing about living artists. On woman was a maverick for writing about Louise Bourgeois. Her wingman (Goose) was spending four years on Andrew Wyeth - he seemed a little stressed out.
Well that makes me feel better. I think the program at York is pretty open-ended and pretty self-aware.
They leave the self awareness (ironically) to the rhetoric department.
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Don't have a lot to say at the moment as my head is buried in prepping for a class debate on public vs. private funding structures for museums. What do you like better, governments or corporations? (heh)
Anyhow, since I'm doing an art history degree, I thought a little visual study on perspective might be appropriate. Remember how we got taught way back in school about how art got better and better as people figured out how to paint things so they looked like they receeded on the picture plane? Those were the days!
- sally mckay 3-20-2008 4:15 am
Bigger crows, smaller seagulls, that's the ticket. Another art and perhaps even a relational aesthetic problem is solved. (Can we not make up relational aesthetic problems as we go along? Yes, I think we can and shall.)
- L.M. 3-20-2008 4:39 am
Yes, that is a good plan! Also, we can address "the panopticon" while we're at it, because in the big-crow small-seagull seemingly dialectical universe the location of the viewer (subject) was at the same time heavily implicated by the unversalising perspective of eating a bagel, thereby embodying both viewer/desiring subject, and the viewed/desired object, in relation to the aforementioned variously agressive avian fauna.
- sally mckay 3-20-2008 6:04 am
Does this look infected?
- L.M. 3-20-2008 6:10 am
Devilled eggs! yum.
- sally mckay 3-20-2008 6:19 am
Sutured, is a good word for that Sally. Any time anything disrupts a seemingly dialectical universe the thing doing it is suturing the two world together. It's a great term because it A. is fun to say B. has a nice visual component that really has nothing to do with what you're talking about but is fun to think about and C. is a term often used by Lacan who (as everyone knows) is a confusing bastard that only 1% of the Lacan scholars know anything about, let alone the rest of us.
And yes L.M., you should have that checked out right away. It looks like you were doing some suturing of your own (although in fairness it looks a bit more like skewering or lancing). In any case whatever the purple thing is, is definitely infected.
- joester (guest) 3-20-2008 10:49 am
-or- schmeered and kabobed together.
- bill 3-20-2008 4:32 pm
Schmeer keeps the bagel theme alive.
Joester, look up suture on google images...I dare ya.
- sally mckay 3-20-2008 5:28 pm
omg.
I once dreamed that my dad had been brought back to life by an adroit taxidermist. He was sitting at the dinner table, happily chowing down, held together by rows of crude black stitches. It was nice to see him again, however revolting.
- M.Jean 3-20-2008 6:29 pm
Sutures, perspective, panopticonisim, and "does this look infected?", all in one picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84221353@N00/2035289553/in/set-72157603072322495/
Beat that.
- rob (guest) 3-20-2008 6:40 pm
Cow Repair by Rob Cruickshank, from the link above:
- L.M. 3-20-2008 7:16 pm
Uh-oh. This photo also opens up a brand new line inquiry: Performative Sensual Fashion Options for the Middle-Aged Mid-Western Bovine-Veterinarian Male.
- sally mckay 3-20-2008 11:12 pm
In the spirit of open inquiry, how does one deal with a critique that would position a Middle-Aged Mid-Western Bovine-Veterinarian Male as a piece of reactionary relational aesthetics? Is his partial nudity enough of a mitigating factor to intercept the logical extension of commentary into the realm of corporate veterinary pharmaceutical interests?
I almost make sense here. cool.
- L.M. 3-20-2008 11:36 pm
M. Jean: it was nice to see him again????
(that is such a great combination of sweet and sick that I must bow to you)
- L.M. 3-20-2008 11:39 pm
Good one, LM! Intercepting extensions. love it.
M. Jean, it sounds from that dream like you finally saw Tideland.
- sally mckay 3-21-2008 1:01 am
Just make sure I get a footnote in any papers you write. (I'm still pissed off at joester for not footnoting my quote "man's interest in animals stems mainly from his desire to eat them" when he wrote his masters thesis.)
- L.M. 3-21-2008 1:20 am
I mean, I'm not one to complain but I bang this shit out of my keyboard and all you academics have to do is copy & paste and pick up a degree.
- L.M. 3-21-2008 1:22 am
One of my teachers told me I have to stop saying "I'm not an academic." I don't think I have to join ranks before I actually have a degree, do I?
- sally mckay 3-21-2008 1:32 am
I think you joined the ranks of academia the second you walked through the institution's door. Let's band together and start a 12-step program for academics. I think it could be fun.
- jennyhead (guest) 3-21-2008 1:44 am
augh. step 1. say you're sorry. step 2. get some excercise. step 3. console gaming. step 4. write a book. step 5. say you're sorry again. ...that's all I got.
- sally mckay 3-21-2008 1:55 am
Then there are the uber academics. Like Goths who wear pink they are so steeped in academia that they can become the very thing they are not. Trevor Paglen springs to mind. On top of his art / activism career he's also doing a PHD in geography.
Sally, I think you should be one of those. Get an art history / physics double major, and have a solo show and curate the Whiney bienniel.
And get a cat. (although I gotta tell ya, them critters are pricey).
- joester (guest) 3-21-2008 8:05 am
speaking of cats...thanks to HEEVANS for this lion link (cuter than otter's holding hands).
- sally mckay 3-21-2008 5:53 pm
even at this academic conference i am at right now, i dont really feel like an academic, but then the pca, most people dont--i think that its almost a state of mind, a way of discourses and inquiry.
- anthony (guest) 3-21-2008 9:04 pm
methodology. One thing that's kind of amazing to me about art history is how long the discipline held out thinking that it was a kind of scientific endeavour: apply the right methodology and you end up with facts! In order to really believe something like that, you have to trust the ways in which the discipline negotiates theory, and have a reasonable amount of confidence in the historical building blocks that the field is scaffolded on. People who want to radically change the narrative often end up in some other field.
- sally mckay 3-21-2008 9:58 pm
Is this no longer the way it works? You spoke in the past tense.
I was amazed talking to Art history students at Berkeley that they were actively discourage from writing about living artists. On woman was a maverick for writing about Louise Bourgeois. Her wingman (Goose) was spending four years on Andrew Wyeth - he seemed a little stressed out.
- joester (guest) 3-21-2008 10:54 pm
Well that makes me feel better. I think the program at York is pretty open-ended and pretty self-aware.
- sally mckay 3-21-2008 11:27 pm
They leave the self awareness (ironically) to the rhetoric department.
- joester (guest) 3-22-2008 2:10 am