Welcome to the browser wilderness of mirrors. The image immediately below is my website on Safari, courtesy of iCapture, a site that allows non-Mac web designers to view their handiwork on a Mac. The bottom image is my web page running on Netscape or IE (or Mozilla, I'm told). I'd say Mr. Jobs isn't helping me out here by artistically blurring out the enlarged gif.
Okay, now to comfuse matters. I am using Safari and see both images here as you intended - the 1st image is blurry, the 2nd is sharp. Is this because now these images are jpegs not gifs?
Wow I'm really comfused. sorry bout the spelling
Yes, I used jpegs (which seem to travel better across browsers) to show the two ways the gifs are being read. is the original post fuzzy or sharp on your Safari? The sharp version in the 2nd jpeg in this post is how most people are seeing it.
The original post was fuzzy in safari like you said. It was sharp in IE.
You may have to publish your blown up gifs as jpegs in the future for us mac/safari folks. Other smaller gifs you've posted, like the little running monster, has looked fine, so it might be in the scalling?
Yeah, it's the scaling in Safari. I'm not sure where or why that blur is coming into a simple set of instructions to enlarge pixels. Mr. Thork's work seems particularly problem-prone. Another enlarged gif I did looked about the same on a friend's Safari as on IE. Still and all, when I was traveling last summer and used my host's Mac, I always switched to IE after a few minutes surfin' with Safari. Not sure why anyone thinks it's a better product, except for the Mac mystique.
Speed -much faster than IE. snapback is a very nice feature. tabbed browsing. Much better bookmark handling.
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Microsoft is not going to make a mac IE any more so you'd (mac users) better get used to Safari at some point.
AND
the Mac mystique. Ever heard of the Dell mystique? Oh, I love that color of grey, looks great next to my cat vomit.
The blur is a spatial low pass filter, which helps remove aliasing effects (jaggies), and which may sometimes be desireable -- particularly for continuous tone images (photos). But it's definitely not what you had in mind. MS "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer" does the same thing when an image is magnified, so Safari isn't completely alone in doing this. The only workaround that comes to mind is what you've done, to blow up the gif prior to posting it.
Thanks, Mark. It's nice to know the technical name for the helpful intervention that sabotages the simplest form of Net Art.
But jeez, make a crack about the Mighty Mac and be prepared for the worst. Be prepared to defend...Dell?
it's all we mac people have left. Leave us our disproportionate moral outrage, please!
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Welcome to the browser wilderness of mirrors. The image immediately below is my website on Safari, courtesy of iCapture, a site that allows non-Mac web designers to view their handiwork on a Mac. The bottom image is my web page running on Netscape or IE (or Mozilla, I'm told). I'd say Mr. Jobs isn't helping me out here by artistically blurring out the enlarged gif.
- tom moody 12-08-2003 8:33 pm
Okay, now to comfuse matters. I am using Safari and see both images here as you intended - the 1st image is blurry, the 2nd is sharp. Is this because now these images are jpegs not gifs?
- Joester (guest) 12-08-2003 10:49 pm
Wow I'm really comfused. sorry bout the spelling
- joester (guest) 12-08-2003 10:51 pm
Yes, I used jpegs (which seem to travel better across browsers) to show the two ways the gifs are being read. is the original post fuzzy or sharp on your Safari? The sharp version in the 2nd jpeg in this post is how most people are seeing it.
- tom moody 12-08-2003 11:01 pm
The original post was fuzzy in safari like you said. It was sharp in IE.
You may have to publish your blown up gifs as jpegs in the future for us mac/safari folks. Other smaller gifs you've posted, like the little running monster, has looked fine, so it might be in the scalling?
- joester (guest) 12-08-2003 11:21 pm
Yeah, it's the scaling in Safari. I'm not sure where or why that blur is coming into a simple set of instructions to enlarge pixels. Mr. Thork's work seems particularly problem-prone. Another enlarged gif I did looked about the same on a friend's Safari as on IE. Still and all, when I was traveling last summer and used my host's Mac, I always switched to IE after a few minutes surfin' with Safari. Not sure why anyone thinks it's a better product, except for the Mac mystique.
- tom moody 12-08-2003 11:47 pm
Speed -much faster than IE. snapback is a very nice feature. tabbed browsing. Much better bookmark handling.
AND
Microsoft is not going to make a mac IE any more so you'd (mac users) better get used to Safari at some point.
AND
the Mac mystique. Ever heard of the Dell mystique? Oh, I love that color of grey, looks great next to my cat vomit.
- joester (guest) 12-09-2003 10:09 am
The blur is a spatial low pass filter, which helps remove aliasing effects (jaggies), and which may sometimes be desireable -- particularly for continuous tone images (photos). But it's definitely not what you had in mind. MS "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer" does the same thing when an image is magnified, so Safari isn't completely alone in doing this. The only workaround that comes to mind is what you've done, to blow up the gif prior to posting it.
- mark 12-10-2003 4:32 am
Thanks, Mark. It's nice to know the technical name for the helpful intervention that sabotages the simplest form of Net Art.
But jeez, make a crack about the Mighty Mac and be prepared for the worst. Be prepared to defend...Dell?
- tom moody 12-10-2003 4:58 am
it's all we mac people have left. Leave us our disproportionate moral outrage, please!
- joester (guest) 12-10-2003 7:30 pm