Posting from an...undisclosed location, some time on my hands, don't have my tablet so my project for the night is drawing Seven of Nine with a mouse. This may change as I get time to tinker with it. ("That is irrelevant.")
haha, awesome. But want something from TNG!!
and some Kirk!
I'm working my way through Star Trek Fan Collective: Borg and am somewhat belatedly appreciating Voyager and Seven of Nine. The box set has all the TNG Borg episodes, as well.
Last night I watched one that flashes back to when Seven of Nine was human--still a kid on a ship with her parents, who are studying the Borg. With all the perfect cuteness of the Disney-styled blond moppet, young Annika says "Daddy, are we going to get assimulated?"
Big fan as well. Pretty much all her dialogue was variations on the same thing, but that somehow made it even better. I loved the one where Janeway was trying to comfort with her during some trying time and so suggested they get a drink together.
Seven replies: "I do not require liquid nutriment at this time."
Don't know why that cracks me up so much.
Yeah, to some extent they recycled their Spock and Data playbook, but it took them 30 years to figure out that putting a Miss America finalist in the role would bring the moves seriously to life.
I have to say, though, male slobbering aside if that's possible, Jeri Ryan is terrific. She has that same mix of ingenuousness and irony about the role that Nimoy and Spiner tapped into, but with the added ability of how to play it off her feminity, the end result being an intelligent character (and boundary crosser, as Alan Shapiro noted) that drives every fanboy stark raving mad. (And hopefully picks up some female fans?)
Just thought of a forerunner: Julie Newmar (the first Catwoman on Batman) played a sexy female robot in a '60s show called "My Living Doll."
rrrowwwwworrr
MLD was great : "What about that Bob Cummings show with Julie Newmar as a robot . . . I think it was Bob Cummings. And one of my all time favorites - 'My Favorite Martian' with Bill Bixby? Love this site . . ."
- Aron Bradley
'My Living Doll', starring Bob Cummings, was one of the craziest premises ever - bizarre even for the Sixties. Bob Cummings plays a Psychiatrist (Dr. Bob McDonald) who has a live-in robot/patient played by Julie Newmar.
Robot AF 709 is paired with Dr. Bob to learn how to be the perfect woman. This meant learnig to cook, clean and be obedient. "My Living Doll' ran in the 64-65 season on CBS, Sunday nights at nine.
The two co-stars hated each other and fought often - leading to Cummings walking off the set and off the show with five episodes left to film.
"Rhoda (Julie Newmar) is an extremely sexy young woman living with womanizing Air Force shrink Bob McDonald. What Bob knows and the rest of the world does not is that Rhoda's real name is AAF709, and she is actually a sophisticated (yet naive) robot. Bob's job is to teach Rhoda how to be a "perfect" woman, and keep her identity secret from the world--especially lecherous neighbor Peter. When actor Bob Cummings left the series in early 1965, his character was written out of the series, and Peter was given the duty of taking care of Rhoda."
and dont forget: "my fathers name was hymie."
im not sure what is meant by boundary crosser. what is transgressive? or is it her transhumanity? i didnt watch more than one or two early episodes. i just realized that both voyager and deep space nine had a benson alum. rene auberjonois was on dsn and ethan phillips was neelix on voyager. and no, i didnt know the names "ethan phillips" or "neelix" until just now. i thought jeri ryans best work came at her divorce proceedings. also, shattner and ryan have both worked on david kelleys boston based shows -- boston legal and boston public. tv tag....
anybody remember holmes and yo-yo? that was my generations hymie.
As I recall it was the Ryan divorce proceedings that led to Juan Cole outing himself as a stone geek Star Trek fan.
I only vaguely remember Yo-Yo, but John Schuck (also Painless in Altman's M.A.S.H.) was my first NY celebrity sighting. I saw him reading the paper on the subway.
ryans divorce made barack obamas life alot easier too.
i wont go into the train of thought which brought me to this realization (needless to say Match Game was involved) but angies mother was the same as ray romanos. and yet i can barely recall her role on remington steele. i must be slipping. btw, its doris roberts for the tv-impaired among you.
She's a Mom-bot (just to get this back to the Borg).
oh yeah, what was the "boundary crosser" aspect? never resolved that.
Shapiro was referring to gender boundaries, but also human/machine, as you said. His argument is that "we are [already] all Borg," and where the conventional wisdom has Seven "learning to become human," he sees her narrative as learning to accept her hybrid nature.
One thread here for tv tag purposes is early Altman regulars: Rene Auberjonois and John Schuck. (Schuck also did latter Star Trek.)
thats right, auberjonois was the original father mulcahy. and looks like he also had a regular stint on, yes, david kelley boston legal.
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Posting from an...undisclosed location, some time on my hands, don't have my tablet so my project for the night is drawing Seven of Nine with a mouse. This may change as I get time to tinker with it. ("That is irrelevant.")
- tom moody 4-08-2006 6:18 am
haha, awesome. But want something from TNG!!
- paul (guest) 4-08-2006 9:42 am
and some Kirk!
- steve 4-08-2006 7:48 pm
I'm working my way through Star Trek Fan Collective: Borg and am somewhat belatedly appreciating Voyager and Seven of Nine. The box set has all the TNG Borg episodes, as well.
Last night I watched one that flashes back to when Seven of Nine was human--still a kid on a ship with her parents, who are studying the Borg. With all the perfect cuteness of the Disney-styled blond moppet, young Annika says "Daddy, are we going to get assimulated?"
- tom moody 4-08-2006 8:58 pm
Big fan as well. Pretty much all her dialogue was variations on the same thing, but that somehow made it even better. I loved the one where Janeway was trying to comfort with her during some trying time and so suggested they get a drink together.
Seven replies: "I do not require liquid nutriment at this time."
Don't know why that cracks me up so much.
- jim 4-08-2006 9:08 pm
Yeah, to some extent they recycled their Spock and Data playbook, but it took them 30 years to figure out that putting a Miss America finalist in the role would bring the moves seriously to life.
I have to say, though, male slobbering aside if that's possible, Jeri Ryan is terrific. She has that same mix of ingenuousness and irony about the role that Nimoy and Spiner tapped into, but with the added ability of how to play it off her feminity, the end result being an intelligent character (and boundary crosser, as Alan Shapiro noted) that drives every fanboy stark raving mad. (And hopefully picks up some female fans?)
- tom moody 4-08-2006 11:14 pm
Just thought of a forerunner: Julie Newmar (the first Catwoman on Batman) played a sexy female robot in a '60s show called "My Living Doll."
- tom moody 4-08-2006 11:17 pm
rrrowwwwworrr
- steve 4-08-2006 11:58 pm
MLD was great :
- bill 4-09-2006 12:03 am
"Rhoda (Julie Newmar) is an extremely sexy young woman living with womanizing Air Force shrink Bob McDonald. What Bob knows and the rest of the world does not is that Rhoda's real name is AAF709, and she is actually a sophisticated (yet naive) robot. Bob's job is to teach Rhoda how to be a "perfect" woman, and keep her identity secret from the world--especially lecherous neighbor Peter. When actor Bob Cummings left the series in early 1965, his character was written out of the series, and Peter was given the duty of taking care of Rhoda."
- tom moody 4-09-2006 12:05 am
and dont forget: "my fathers name was hymie."
- bill 4-09-2006 12:05 am
im not sure what is meant by boundary crosser. what is transgressive? or is it her transhumanity? i didnt watch more than one or two early episodes. i just realized that both voyager and deep space nine had a benson alum. rene auberjonois was on dsn and ethan phillips was neelix on voyager. and no, i didnt know the names "ethan phillips" or "neelix" until just now. i thought jeri ryans best work came at her divorce proceedings. also, shattner and ryan have both worked on david kelleys boston based shows -- boston legal and boston public. tv tag....
- dave 4-09-2006 12:16 am
anybody remember holmes and yo-yo? that was my generations hymie.
- dave 4-09-2006 12:22 am
As I recall it was the Ryan divorce proceedings that led to Juan Cole outing himself as a stone geek Star Trek fan.
I only vaguely remember Yo-Yo, but John Schuck (also Painless in Altman's M.A.S.H.) was my first NY celebrity sighting. I saw him reading the paper on the subway.
- tom moody 4-09-2006 12:55 am
ryans divorce made barack obamas life alot easier too.
- dave 4-09-2006 1:14 am
i wont go into the train of thought which brought me to this realization (needless to say Match Game was involved) but angies mother was the same as ray romanos. and yet i can barely recall her role on remington steele. i must be slipping. btw, its doris roberts for the tv-impaired among you.
- dave 4-09-2006 2:18 am
She's a Mom-bot (just to get this back to the Borg).
- tom moody 4-09-2006 2:28 am
oh yeah, what was the "boundary crosser" aspect? never resolved that.
- dave 4-09-2006 2:33 am
Shapiro was referring to gender boundaries, but also human/machine, as you said. His argument is that "we are [already] all Borg," and where the conventional wisdom has Seven "learning to become human," he sees her narrative as learning to accept her hybrid nature.
- tom moody 4-09-2006 2:46 am
One thread here for tv tag purposes is early Altman regulars: Rene Auberjonois and John Schuck. (Schuck also did latter Star Trek.)
- tom moody 4-10-2006 4:07 am
thats right, auberjonois was the original father mulcahy. and looks like he also had a regular stint on, yes, david kelley boston legal.
- dave 4-10-2006 5:09 am