Wrestling with an angle.
are the angles wrestling with the saxons? just another fine "delivery system" for injecting the lord into the souls of americas youth. maybe we should launch a brand of cigarettes to market the lord and tobacco. "why settle for dry wafers on sunday when you can puff the lord anytime!!" im sure we can find an appropriate passage in the bible to sanctify our efforts. can anybody think of a good name? i was thinking Gomorrah but that might be too old testament.
I bet you dont like Winger either. ....or the Danielson Family Singers.
perhaps it betrays my cultural biases more than my religious but i like the danielson family while undoubtedly i would hate winger or whatever christian heavy metal rock band i was forced to consider. but maybe i just find that its funny how religions, especially christians in america, appropriate countercultural or merely immoral(wheres that understanding of semiotics when i need it?)motifs and recontextualize them to their own purposes despite the fact that the context of the message and that of the messenger arent necessarily unconflicting. plus, that conjured to mind how cigarette companies consider cigarettes "delivery systems" for nicotine. just as religions could consider music in its many forms a "delivery system" for their message.
The semiotics principle is "the metaphorization of metonymy": if two things are next to each other, they will appear to be related in ways that go beyond contiguity. This perceptual quirk (or truth, or whatever it may be) is used to sell everything, not just religion. The thing is, you only get the product, never the inducement, which is therefore know as "the imaginary". Most often, the imaginary is sex, which makes religion a hard sell under the best of circumstances (it always goes faster under the worst of circumstances). I can tell you, however, having actually been initiated into the Mysteries of Consumerism, even when you get the sex, all that happens is that you feel sorry for the poor imaginary, which is still found to be lacking in existence.
what do you mean even when you get the sex....? is marlboro offering free blowjobs with every carton? i thought their prices were getting a bit steep but i might have to take up smoking again if its true. although i dont think burnt offerings should consider this marketing strategy. we want to merge piousness with smoking. (however, im not saying some subtle subliminables are not worthwhile.)remember, bill clinton and his cigar smoking ilk are not our target audience.
Burnt Offerings: Light one for the Lord.
Hi,(big smile) I'm Jim Louis and I quit smoking years ago and I quit going to church sometime before that, but ever since I tried the new Burnt Offering Brand cigarette I feel like the prodigal son returning home. Now I'm huffin' the Holy Spirit, and puffin' with Jesus.
just got this in the email. somebody must be listening. Here are some of great links for you. If you are new to AOL, just click on the blue words after the number of the website that you wish to visit and it will take you to the website.
Please copy and paste this email to a text file on your computer in case this email gets deleted by mistake or something. That way you won't lose all of these wonderful websites.
1. Dr. Maurice Rawlings, MD, a heart surgeon, has written a number of books on the near death experience and clearly shows from his own practice and the experiences of his patients, that not everyone goes to the light when they die, where there is total love. He has written of many patients being resuscitated on the operating table and speaking about being in hell, where there was a real devil and demons, and where the inhabitants were tormented with fire. Dr. Rawlings writes that these people are a lot more reluctant to talk about it than those who went to the good place. In fact, these people were highly motivated to do all that they could to repent and be saved (born again in the Christian faith) so that they would never go back to the place of torment. You might be interested to know that not one Christian ever had a near death experience where they went to hell, among all the hundreds of cases documented by Dr. Rawlings. To Hell And Back ---> http://media.trinetcom.com:8080/ramgen/tbn/To_Hell_And_Back.rm
2. The Resurrection on Trial. If you clicked on this link and nothing happened, you'll probably need to download Realplayer at the bottom of this email. http://media.trinetcom.com:8080/ramgen/tbn/HLindsey.rm
3. More RealPlayer Movies Here. http://tbn.org/tbnfilms/video.htm
4. The Amazing Bible Codes! Even the scientific community can't refute this amazing discovery that proves 100% that the Bible is completely true and The Word of The Living God. http://www.yacovrambsel.com/
5. Do you need a miracle healing in your body or know somebody that does? http://www.bennyhinn.org/
6. Jesus - The True Path to God. This website is awesome! I repeat! This website is awesome! http://truepath.diz.nu/
7. Real Video - On Wings of Eagles, about helping Jews from the former Soviet Union emigrate to Israel. http://www.ifcj.org/index2.htm
8. LIVE" Christian Video - 24/hrs a day http://www.tbn.org/watch/tbnlive/index.htm
9. 24/hr Spirtual Programming http://www.streamingfaith.com/
10. About The Real Jesus http://www.simpletruth.org/
11. Creation or evolution? One is a lie. http://www.creationevidence.org/
12. Jehovah Jesus / satellite picture http://whatsaiththescripture.com/WStS.Jehovah.html
13. Bible Gateway - Online Bible http://bible.gospelcom.net/
14. Christian Wallpaper and Screen Saver from John Bells Digital Art Gallery http://www.jrbell.com/
15. MessiahCAM - Live WEBCAM shot of the Ascension Chapel On Mount of Olives - It will be in this vicinity that Jesus will descend and return again! WOW!!! http://www.olivetree.org/Jerusalem_Pictures/registra.htm
16. Zola Levitt Ministries - Bible teaching with an emphasis on Israel, prophecy and the Jewish roots of Christianity. http://www.levitt.com/
17. Heralding the Good News of Bible Prophecy and the Soon Return of Jesus Christ. http://www.thekingiscoming.com/
18. Are there many diffent paths to God? http://www.intouch.org/intouch/site.show_page?p_id=77546&p_id_from=36079899&p_current_date=09%2F17%2F2000
19. Baptism http://www.zchurch.com/shtml/baptism.htm
20. Does being baptised save you? http://www.intouch.org/intouch/site.show_page?p_id=77546&p_id_from=36079899&p_current_date=09%2F24%2F2000
21. In Touch Ministries - Pastor Charles Stanley http://www.intouch.org/
22. Audio Archives - In Touch Ministries - Pastor Charles Stanley http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/broadcasts/archives_77395.html
23. Video Archives - In Touch Ministries - Pastor Charles Stanley http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/broadcasts/archive_tv_36079899.html
24. Bible Studies http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/studies/index_77689.html
25. The Christian Missions Home Page and the home of The Great Commission Search Engine. http://www.sim.org/
26. Christian Chats (AOL required) aol://4344:122.GENchat.1253997.592254125
27. Welcome to the Family http://www.jvim.com/firststeps
28. Salvation Questions http://fox.nstn.ca/~nstn2705/salv.html
29. The Blue Letter Bible http://www.khouse.org/blueletter/index.html
30. Jesus Film - In Many Different Languages http://www.jesusfilm.org/view/realvideo/theend.html
31. http://www.godsnews.com/
32. http://www.tdjakes.org/
33. http://www.iiw.org/index.html
34. http://www.crpc.org/2000
35. http://www.boblarson.org/
36. http://www.lakewood-church.org/
37. http://www.lwf.org/
38. http://www.reasons.org/
39. http://www.schambach.org/
40. http://www.cloudtenpictures.com/
41. http://www.jvim.com/
42. http://www.falwell.com/
43. http://www.jhm.org/
44. http://www.prophecytoday.com/
45. http://www.gospelmedia.com/
46. Archaeological evidence that proves to the world that the Bible is true. http://www.baseinstitute.org/
47. A love letter from the Father http://aandie.homestead.com/Love_Letter.html
48. http://www.thegospel.org/
49. http://www.worldofthebible.com/
50. http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/
51. http://www.firstliberties.com/
52. Bible Prophecy Webring http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=bpr&list
53. http://www.artcov.com/
54. http://www.gregolsengallery.com/
55. http://www.christianwebcast.net/
56. How to Become a Christian - Click here to watch 6 minute video http://www.lifeway.com/24hour/video.htm
57. http://www.watch.org/
58. http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/
59. http://www.biblecodesecrets.com/
Do you want to talk to someone about how to be saved or have any questions? CALL: 1-800-Need-Him or 1-800-633-3446. This is a free call.
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Please forward this email to EVERYONE you possibly can! Jesus said, ..."Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation" (Mark 16:15).
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The Right to Censor Yes, The Danielsons and Vince McMahon do have a sence of humor and it saved bothXXXXX all their asses.
Did Dave just post fifty religious websites into this brainstorming session or is there an Imposter Pilate amongst us?
jim whats the record # of comments to a post??
how bout Babylon Cigarettes. a hackneyed word but useful. very graphic, a little naughty. You Will Go To Babylon.
Maybe as a sister product to Burnt Offerings, targeted at the 16-28 year old B. Marley idolaters. Could package them as little spleefs. Another sister product (name?) could be packaged as blunts. I have some property in North Carolina, surrounded by woods, and TOBACCO fields, we could guerilla harvest enough raw product to get started.
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- alex 1-22-2001 3:25 pm
are the angles wrestling with the saxons?
just another fine "delivery system" for injecting the lord into the souls of americas youth. maybe we should launch a brand of cigarettes to market the lord and tobacco. "why settle for dry wafers on sunday when you can puff the lord anytime!!" im sure we can find an appropriate passage in the bible to sanctify our efforts. can anybody think of a good name? i was thinking Gomorrah but that might be too old testament.
- dave 1-22-2001 4:17 pm [add a comment]
I bet you dont like Winger either. ....or the Danielson Family Singers.
- bill 1-22-2001 7:51 pm [add a comment]
perhaps it betrays my cultural biases more than my religious but i like the danielson family while undoubtedly i would hate winger or whatever christian heavy metal rock band i was forced to consider. but maybe i just find that its funny how religions, especially christians in america, appropriate countercultural or merely immoral(wheres that understanding of semiotics when i need it?)motifs and recontextualize them to their own purposes despite the fact that the context of the message and that of the messenger arent necessarily unconflicting. plus, that conjured to mind how cigarette companies consider cigarettes "delivery systems" for nicotine. just as religions could consider music in its many forms a "delivery system" for their message.
- dave 1-22-2001 8:41 pm [add a comment]
The semiotics principle is "the metaphorization of metonymy": if two things are next to each other, they will appear to be related in ways that go beyond contiguity. This perceptual quirk (or truth, or whatever it may be) is used to sell everything, not just religion. The thing is, you only get the product, never the inducement, which is therefore know as "the imaginary". Most often, the imaginary is sex, which makes religion a hard sell under the best of circumstances (it always goes faster under the worst of circumstances). I can tell you, however, having actually been initiated into the Mysteries of Consumerism, even when you get the sex, all that happens is that you feel sorry for the poor imaginary, which is still found to be lacking in existence.
- alex 1-22-2001 11:37 pm [add a comment]
what do you mean even when you get the sex....? is marlboro offering free blowjobs with every carton? i thought their prices were getting a bit steep but i might have to take up smoking again if its true. although i dont think burnt offerings should consider this marketing strategy. we want to merge piousness with smoking. (however, im not saying some subtle subliminables are not worthwhile.)remember, bill clinton and his cigar smoking ilk are not our target audience.
- dave 1-23-2001 12:03 am [add a comment]
Burnt Offerings: Light one for the Lord.
- alex 1-22-2001 9:44 pm [add a comment]
light one for the lord sounds a little heavy handed. how about something like "lighten up"? im seeing smoke rimmed haloes atop of saints preaching the gospels with fire and brimstone in one hand and a cig in the other, as the smokerings rise onto ethereal climes.
- dave 1-22-2001 10:17 pm [add a comment]
Hi,(big smile) I'm Jim Louis and I quit smoking years ago and I quit going to church sometime before that, but ever since I tried the new Burnt Offering Brand cigarette I feel like the prodigal son returning home. Now I'm huffin' the Holy Spirit, and puffin' with Jesus.
- jimlouis 1-22-2001 10:52 pm [add a comment]
...and you get to be with Him sooner!
- alex 1-22-2001 11:24 pm [add a comment]
smoke em if you god em
- dave 1-22-2001 11:44 pm [add a comment]
Blessed Be
- jimlouis 1-23-2001 2:39 am [add a comment]
just got this in the email. somebody must be listening.
Here are some of great links for you. If you are new to AOL, just click on the blue words after the number of the website that you wish to visit and it will take you to the website.
Please copy and paste this email to a text file on your computer in case this email gets deleted by mistake or something. That way you won't lose all of these wonderful websites.
1. Dr. Maurice Rawlings, MD, a heart surgeon, has written a number of books on the near death experience and clearly shows from his own practice and the experiences of his patients, that not everyone goes to the light when they die, where there is total love. He has written of many patients being resuscitated on the operating table and speaking about being in hell, where there was a real devil and demons, and where the inhabitants were tormented with fire. Dr. Rawlings writes that these people are a lot more reluctant to talk about it than those who went to the good place. In fact, these people were highly motivated to do all that they could to repent and be saved (born again in the Christian faith) so that they would never go back to the place of torment. You might be interested to know that not one Christian ever had a near death experience where they went to hell, among all the hundreds of cases documented by Dr. Rawlings. To Hell And Back ---> http://media.trinetcom.com:8080/ramgen/tbn/To_Hell_And_Back.rm
2. The Resurrection on Trial. If you clicked on this link and nothing happened, you'll probably need to download Realplayer at the bottom of this email. http://media.trinetcom.com:8080/ramgen/tbn/HLindsey.rm
3. More RealPlayer Movies Here. http://tbn.org/tbnfilms/video.htm
4. The Amazing Bible Codes! Even the scientific community can't refute this amazing discovery that proves 100% that the Bible is completely true and The Word of The Living God. http://www.yacovrambsel.com/
5. Do you need a miracle healing in your body or know somebody that does? http://www.bennyhinn.org/
6. Jesus - The True Path to God. This website is awesome! I repeat! This website is awesome! http://truepath.diz.nu/
7. Real Video - On Wings of Eagles, about helping Jews from the former Soviet Union emigrate to Israel. http://www.ifcj.org/index2.htm
8. LIVE" Christian Video - 24/hrs a day http://www.tbn.org/watch/tbnlive/index.htm
9. 24/hr Spirtual Programming http://www.streamingfaith.com/
10. About The Real Jesus http://www.simpletruth.org/
11. Creation or evolution? One is a lie. http://www.creationevidence.org/
12. Jehovah Jesus / satellite picture http://whatsaiththescripture.com/WStS.Jehovah.html
13. Bible Gateway - Online Bible http://bible.gospelcom.net/
14. Christian Wallpaper and Screen Saver from John Bells Digital Art Gallery http://www.jrbell.com/
15. MessiahCAM - Live WEBCAM shot of the Ascension Chapel On Mount of Olives - It will be in this vicinity that Jesus will descend and return again! WOW!!! http://www.olivetree.org/Jerusalem_Pictures/registra.htm
16. Zola Levitt Ministries - Bible teaching with an emphasis on Israel, prophecy and the Jewish roots of Christianity. http://www.levitt.com/
17. Heralding the Good News of Bible Prophecy and the Soon Return of Jesus Christ. http://www.thekingiscoming.com/
18. Are there many diffent paths to God? http://www.intouch.org/intouch/site.show_page?p_id=77546&p_id_from=36079899&p_current_date=09%2F17%2F2000
19. Baptism http://www.zchurch.com/shtml/baptism.htm
20. Does being baptised save you? http://www.intouch.org/intouch/site.show_page?p_id=77546&p_id_from=36079899&p_current_date=09%2F24%2F2000
21. In Touch Ministries - Pastor Charles Stanley http://www.intouch.org/
22. Audio Archives - In Touch Ministries - Pastor Charles Stanley http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/broadcasts/archives_77395.html
23. Video Archives - In Touch Ministries - Pastor Charles Stanley http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/broadcasts/archive_tv_36079899.html
24. Bible Studies http://www.intouch.org/myintouch/exploring/studies/index_77689.html
25. The Christian Missions Home Page and the home of The Great Commission Search Engine. http://www.sim.org/
26. Christian Chats (AOL required) aol://4344:122.GENchat.1253997.592254125
27. Welcome to the Family http://www.jvim.com/firststeps
28. Salvation Questions http://fox.nstn.ca/~nstn2705/salv.html
29. The Blue Letter Bible http://www.khouse.org/blueletter/index.html
30. Jesus Film - In Many Different Languages http://www.jesusfilm.org/view/realvideo/theend.html
31. http://www.godsnews.com/
32. http://www.tdjakes.org/
33. http://www.iiw.org/index.html
34. http://www.crpc.org/2000
35. http://www.boblarson.org/
36. http://www.lakewood-church.org/
37. http://www.lwf.org/
38. http://www.reasons.org/
39. http://www.schambach.org/
40. http://www.cloudtenpictures.com/
41. http://www.jvim.com/
42. http://www.falwell.com/
43. http://www.jhm.org/
44. http://www.prophecytoday.com/
45. http://www.gospelmedia.com/
46. Archaeological evidence that proves to the world that the Bible is true. http://www.baseinstitute.org/
47. A love letter from the Father http://aandie.homestead.com/Love_Letter.html
48. http://www.thegospel.org/
49. http://www.worldofthebible.com/
50. http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/
51. http://www.firstliberties.com/
52. Bible Prophecy Webring http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=bpr&list
53. http://www.artcov.com/
54. http://www.gregolsengallery.com/
55. http://www.christianwebcast.net/
56. How to Become a Christian - Click here to watch 6 minute video http://www.lifeway.com/24hour/video.htm
57. http://www.watch.org/
58. http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/
59. http://www.biblecodesecrets.com/
Do you want to talk to someone about how to be saved or have any questions? CALL: 1-800-Need-Him or 1-800-633-3446. This is a free call.
DOWNLOAD FREE REALPLAYER HERE http://huxley.real.com/real/player/player.html?src=topnav,001215rpchoice_c1&dc=121812171216?
Please forward this email to EVERYONE you possibly can! Jesus said, ..."Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation" (Mark 16:15).
God Bless You!
- dave 1-22-2001 9:12 pm [add a comment]
The Right to Censor Yes, The Danielsons and Vince McMahon do have a sence of humor and it saved bothXXXXX all their asses.
- bill 1-23-2001 12:41 am [add a comment]
Did Dave just post fifty religious websites into this brainstorming session or is there an Imposter Pilate amongst us?
- jimlouis 1-23-2001 2:46 am [add a comment]
i got it in an email today. i thought it was a sign.
- dave 1-23-2001 2:58 am [add a comment]
I think it really is Dave, and worse yet, I think I agree with him.
- jimlouis 1-23-2001 3:26 am [add a comment]
jim whats the record # of comments to a post??
- Skinny 1-23-2001 1:50 am [add a comment]
how bout Babylon Cigarettes. a hackneyed word but useful. very graphic, a little naughty. You Will Go To Babylon.
- dave 1-23-2001 4:35 am [add a comment]
Maybe as a sister product to Burnt Offerings, targeted at the 16-28 year old B. Marley idolaters. Could package them as little spleefs. Another sister product (name?) could be packaged as blunts. I have some property in North Carolina, surrounded by woods, and TOBACCO fields, we could guerilla harvest enough raw product to get started.
- jimlouis 1-23-2001 3:27 pm [add a comment]
How about "Meet your Maker" brand for an expedited meet and greet @ "Fanfest with God" 2001, located directly above Virginia ?
- bill 1-24-2001 10:09 pm [add a comment]
- anonymous (guest) 7-11-2002 1:50 pm [add a comment]